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Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released - trinidad - 05-21-2024

The command below should clear the recent array.
Code:
xfconf-query -c xfce4-panel -p /plugins/plugin-10/recent -r
The plugin is 10 on all my LL machines, but it's easy enough to check and change if neccessary. I think we should keep it in.
Also does restore the panel work?
TC


Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released - Valtam - 05-22-2024

Telegram and Etcher are both in other package forms now. TC's command works, thank you. I don't know why Snaps are used so much now.

Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released - Valtam - 05-22-2024

Recently Used is now handled by right clicking on Recently Used > right click on any application > Clear Recently Used. Works on 6x too.

Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released - sqwuade - 05-22-2024

Are you still planning on including a "Snap Free" version of Firefox Jerry?  I saw you mentioned that awhile back.  Snapd likes to create a lot of mount points which rubs me the wrong way...  Actually, I installed Firefox from the lite-software app on LL7 and don't see the mount points I see in LL6.6 so maybe you already implemented it?

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1047456/why-are-all-snaps-being-mounted-and-listed-as-block-devices-or-partitions-for-ub

Are you planning on making a LL7-RC2 for more testing Jerry?

Did you see the issue I had when trying to install LL7 alongside another distro in a dual-boot scenario?  Thanks.

(05-22-2024, 12:48 AM)Jerry link Wrote: Telegram and Etcher are both in other package forms now. TC's command works, thank you. I don't know why Snaps are used so much now.


Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released - Valtam - 05-22-2024

Yes, I'm against snaps. TB and FF are both in deb form in 7x

Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released - sqwuade - 05-22-2024

Yes!  Jerry for the win!

https://digitalhemi.com/files/vid/JerryJerryJerry.mp4


(05-22-2024, 02:22 AM)Jerry link Wrote: Yes, I'm against snaps. TB and FF are both in deb form in 7x


Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released - Valtam - 05-22-2024

lol

Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released - stevef - 05-22-2024

Timeshift
Quote:It's probably getting the naming from the /etc/lsb-release file.
Confirmed

Is anyone else having problems with nouveau ?

This is a test machine which runs LL5.8 and 6.6 ok, however LL7.0 RC1 consistently locks up when running Lite Updates from GUI (terminal works ok)
The system lock up seems to be related to nouveau.

Code:
inxi -Gxxx
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA G86 [GeForce 8500 GT] driver: nouveau v: kernel bus ID: 07:00.0 chip ID: 10de:0421
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 21.1.11 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
           OpenGL: renderer: NV86 v: 3.3 Mesa 24.0.5-1ubuntu1 direct render: Yes


In the example below, the update process was launched at approx 08:51 and the 'update' section appeared to run ok.
The GUI lock up happens at 08:51:22 at the point the system should report the necessary updates and seek confirmation to proceed.
Although the desktop appears to be completely locked, things may still be going on as events after the lock up are logged.

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Code:
May 22 08:51:04 A320MEVOLL70 polkitd[843]: Identity `unix-group:admin' is not valid, ignoring: No UNIX group with name admin: Success
May 22 08:51:12 A320MEVOLL70 polkitd[843]: Operator of unix-session:c2 successfully authenticated as unix-user:stephen to gain ONE-SHOT authorization for action com.ubuntu.pkexec.lite_updates for unix-process:7119:193040 [/bin/bash /usr/bin/lite-updates] (owned by unix-user:stephen)
May 22 08:51:12 A320MEVOLL70 pkexec[7135]: pam_unix(polkit-1:session): session opened for user root(uid=0) by (uid=1000)
May 22 08:51:12 A320MEVOLL70 pkexec[7135]: stephen: Executing command [USER=root] [TTY=unknown] [CWD=/home/stephen] [COMMAND=/usr/bin/lite-updates]
May 22 08:51:13 A320MEVOLL70 dbus-daemon[816]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.PackageKit' unit='packagekit.service' requested by ':1.121' (uid=0 pid=7671 comm="/usr/bin/gdbus call --system --dest org.freedeskto" label="unconfined")
May 22 08:51:13 A320MEVOLL70 systemd[1]: Starting packagekit.service - PackageKit Daemon...
May 22 08:51:13 A320MEVOLL70 PackageKit[7675]: daemon start
May 22 08:51:13 A320MEVOLL70 dbus-daemon[816]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.PackageKit'
May 22 08:51:13 A320MEVOLL70 systemd[1]: Started packagekit.service - PackageKit Daemon.
May 22 08:51:19 A320MEVOLL70 kernel: nouveau 0000:07:00.0: gr: DATA_ERROR 00000012 [RT_LINEAR_WITH_ZETA]
May 22 08:51:19 A320MEVOLL70 kernel: nouveau 0000:07:00.0: gr: 00100000 [] ch 6 [003f4ac000 WebKitWebProces[7736]] subc 3 class 8297 mthd 0d78 data 00000004

... 60 instances of same two 'kernel nouveau' messages removed for brevity ...

May 22 08:51:21 A320MEVOLL70 kernel: nouveau 0000:07:00.0: gr: DATA_ERROR 00000012 [RT_LINEAR_WITH_ZETA]
May 22 08:51:21 A320MEVOLL70 kernel: nouveau 0000:07:00.0: gr: 00100000 [] ch 6 [003f4ac000 WebKitWebProces[7736]] subc 3 class 8297 mthd 0d78 data 00000004
May 22 08:51:47 A320MEVOLL70 packagekitd[7675]: pk_package_set_update_severity: assertion 'update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_UNKNOWN || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_LOW || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_NORMAL || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_IMPORTANT || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_CRITICAL' failed
May 22 08:51:47 A320MEVOLL70 packagekitd[7675]: pk_package_set_update_severity: assertion 'update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_UNKNOWN || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_LOW || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_NORMAL || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_IMPORTANT || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_CRITICAL' failed
May 22 08:51:47 A320MEVOLL70 packagekitd[7675]: pk_package_set_update_severity: assertion 'update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_UNKNOWN || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_LOW || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_NORMAL || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_IMPORTANT || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_CRITICAL' failed
May 22 08:51:47 A320MEVOLL70 packagekitd[7675]: pk_package_set_update_severity: assertion 'update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_UNKNOWN || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_LOW || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_NORMAL || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_IMPORTANT || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_CRITICAL' failed
May 22 08:51:47 A320MEVOLL70 packagekitd[7675]: pk_package_set_update_severity: assertion 'update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_UNKNOWN || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_LOW || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_NORMAL || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_IMPORTANT || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_CRITICAL' failed
May 22 08:51:47 A320MEVOLL70 packagekitd[7675]: pk_package_set_update_severity: assertion 'update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_UNKNOWN || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_LOW || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_NORMAL || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_IMPORTANT || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_CRITICAL' failed
May 22 08:51:47 A320MEVOLL70 packagekitd[7675]: pk_package_set_update_severity: assertion 'update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_UNKNOWN || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_LOW || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_NORMAL || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_IMPORTANT || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_CRITICAL' failed
May 22 08:51:47 A320MEVOLL70 packagekitd[7675]: pk_package_set_update_severity: assertion 'update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_UNKNOWN || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_LOW || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_NORMAL || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_IMPORTANT || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_CRITICAL' failed
May 22 08:51:47 A320MEVOLL70 packagekitd[7675]: pk_package_set_update_severity: assertion 'update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_UNKNOWN || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_LOW || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_NORMAL || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_IMPORTANT || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_CRITICAL' failed
May 22 08:51:47 A320MEVOLL70 packagekitd[7675]: pk_package_set_update_severity: assertion 'update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_UNKNOWN || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_LOW || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_NORMAL || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_IMPORTANT || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_CRITICAL' failed
May 22 08:51:47 A320MEVOLL70 packagekitd[7675]: pk_package_set_update_severity: assertion 'update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_UNKNOWN || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_LOW || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_NORMAL || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_IMPORTANT || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_CRITICAL' failed
May 22 08:51:47 A320MEVOLL70 packagekitd[7675]: pk_package_set_update_severity: assertion 'update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_UNKNOWN || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_LOW || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_NORMAL || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_IMPORTANT || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_CRITICAL' failed
May 22 08:51:47 A320MEVOLL70 packagekitd[7675]: pk_package_set_update_severity: assertion 'update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_UNKNOWN || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_LOW || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_NORMAL || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_IMPORTANT || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_CRITICAL' failed
May 22 08:51:47 A320MEVOLL70 packagekitd[7675]: pk_package_set_update_severity: assertion 'update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_UNKNOWN || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_LOW || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_NORMAL || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_IMPORTANT || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_CRITICAL' failed
May 22 08:51:47 A320MEVOLL70 packagekitd[7675]: pk_package_set_update_severity: assertion 'update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_UNKNOWN || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_LOW || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_NORMAL || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_IMPORTANT || update_severity == PK_INFO_ENUM_CRITICAL' failed
May 22 08:51:47 A320MEVOLL70 PackageKit[7675]: get-updates transaction /1136_adeaddaa from uid 1000 finished with success after 1037ms
May 22 08:51:49 A320MEVOLL70 ntpd[2215]: PROTO: 148.253.179.18 unlink local addr 192.168.2.4 -> <null>
May 22 08:52:01 A320MEVOLL70 cron[795]: (*system*) RELOAD (/etc/crontab)
May 22 08:52:17 A320MEVOLL70 kernel: sysrq: This sysrq operation is disabled.


The system also locks up in general use - not yet been able to establish another pattern, but again nouveau errors are logged at the time.
Here's an example of the log when the system locked up while I was using 'Calculator'.  In this case the error was logged 400 times with variations of the address.

Code:
May 22 09:01:55 A320MEVOLL70 kernel: nouveau 0000:07:00.0: gr: TRAP_PROP - TP 0 - Unknown CUDA fault at address 00201a5400
May 22 09:01:55 A320MEVOLL70 kernel: nouveau 0000:07:00.0: gr: TRAP_PROP - TP 0 - e0c: 00000000, e18: 00000ff2, e1c: 00000000, e20: 00000000, e24: 09030000
May 22 09:01:55 A320MEVOLL70 kernel: nouveau 0000:07:00.0: gr: 00200000 [] ch 5 [003f629000 gnome-calculato[4565]] subc 3 class 8297 mthd 15e0 data 00000000
May 22 09:01:55 A320MEVOLL70 kernel: nouveau 0000:07:00.0: fb: trapped write at 00201a5400 on channel 5 [3f629000 gnome-calculato[4565]] engine 00 [PGRAPH] client 0b [PROP] subclient 09 [LOCAL] reason 00000002 [PAGE_NOT_PRESENT]
May 22 09:01:55 A320MEVOLL70 kernel: nouveau 0000:07:00.0: gr: TRAP_PROP - TP 0 - Unknown CUDA fault at address 00201a4400
May 22 09:01:55 A320MEVOLL70 kernel: nouveau 0000:07:00.0: gr: TRAP_PROP - TP 0 - e0c: 00000000, e18: 00000ff2, e1c: 00000000, e20: 00000000, e24: 09030000
May 22 09:01:55 A320MEVOLL70 kernel: nouveau 0000:07:00.0: gr: 00200000 [] ch 5 [003f629000 gnome-calculato[4565]] subc 3 class 8297 mthd 15e0 data 00000000
May 22 09:01:55 A320MEVOLL70 kernel: nouveau 0000:07:00.0: fb: trapped write at 00201a4400 on channel 5 [3f629000 gnome-calculato[4565]] engine 00 [PGRAPH] client 0b [PROP] subclient 09 [LOCAL] reason 00000002 [PAGE_NOT_PRESENT]


Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released - Şerban S. - 05-22-2024

(05-22-2024, 02:22 AM)Jerry link Wrote: Yes, I'm against snaps. TB and FF are both in deb form in 7x
Thank you very much!
I hate being forced to install any app to get another. Let alone a service that runs all the way!
It's against the letter and spirit of GNU/FOSS.
I didn't bother too much since we're talking about a test install. In the final release though, I was planning to switch to Mozilla PPA, which I tested already for some 12 months or so.

LL 7.0 RC2
I'd like very much to have a second release, in order to test with a real install on my machine.
I upgraded my main machine (Dell precision T1700) with a hot-pluggable 5,25" bay with two slots so now I can dual boot independently, by simply switching from one bay to another.
The unit I'm using is Delock 47230 (two trays variant).
I want to see it running on this machine, because it looks like the level of performance is way above the previous versions.
On ASUS X200MA for one, the memory footprint is lower wtih some 150 - 200 (or more?) MB, which as I see it, is way better than any distro I tested so far.
The weirdest thing though, is that Chrome runs now with more than 5 documents (actually the tested number was about 22 documents opened!!) without blocking the machine, as it usually happened.
Further more, the "system-monitoring-center" showed amazing values for a 10 years old machine, with 2 GB of soldered (onboard) RAM that is also shared with the video chip.
The only bottleneck, was the CPU, but given the type (Celeron N2830), is understandable.
The other strange thing, was the low amount of SWAP (150 - 250 MB) which on that machine, is quite spectacular! The highest value was some 330 MB, with SimpleScreenRecorder, some 15 Chrome tabs, System Monitoring Center, Pluma (two ASCII opened, maybe three), one Writer document opened and, of course, my usual DoubleCommander.
That is a great amount of Apps running on this kind of machine!
Occasionally I had also Thunar opened since the new one has a double panel view available.
Possibly, (I forgot) I also had opened the Lite Software and alternately, Lite Widget and Lite Tweaks.
In any of this cases, the behaviour was amazing.
Back in the days, when I had the Lenovo T400 I could get this kind of results, but it had 4 GB of Ram and a Core2Duo (two threads though...) CPU, which is nothing even near a Celeron.
Yet, these are the results, so far.

Lite Apps Windowing Issue
The only real weird issue I encounter, is the size of the windows which are larger than the available height of the desktop. This is abnormal.
I forgot the exact range of resolutions, but the default is a wide 1366 x 768.
That means that the OnResize event, assumes a relative value as default (presumably 800) instead of dynamically extracting ScreenWidth/SecreenHeight.
I never had such problems with my apps since I always used the ScreenWidth/SecreenHeight instead of a fixed value so resizing, worked fine on any resolution.
The only workaround I could find is to hide the launch bar (Panel 2) and reduce the width of both, which I dislike. I have bad sight and I'm wearing glasses. So large icons, is a must in my case.
I can only speculate on the causes, because the Pluma, LibreOffice and other Apps behave normally, while "Lite *" do manifest this. That means that some code was reused in most apps (or all) and the portion of code needs to be rewritten to accomodate the real ScreenHeight value. The interfaces in themelves, have enough room for all the controls to be properly operated so it should be doable. Even if so, adding a side-scroll bar is possible and this also solves the problem, even if at the cost of some more click and scroll.
I know that nowadays there are people that can afford using an external display, but here are many people that find that expensive.
This is true for many use-cases, since lots of people here have very old machines that allow this kind of wide resolutions (1366x768).
In this regard, maybe you should change the window variable "FixedWidth" with "Resizable". I guess that's a quick fix, in case there is nothing like a "Resize" event in all the code.
In my apps, I tested the resolution 640x480 for FixedWidth and usually I dynamically set the value of "FixedWidth" using the real display settings as a start value.
Something like FormWidth=0.6*ScreenWidth.
If you issue next to that "FormStyle.FixedWidth=T" it works properly. Or maybe FormStyle=FixedWidth.





Re: Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released - sqwuade - 05-22-2024

I'll see if I can replicate this issue on an old box I've got with an Nvidia graphics card.

Are you checking this box during installation? "Install third-party software for graphics and Wi-Fi and hardware and additional media formats"

(05-22-2024, 08:59 AM)stevef link Wrote: Is anyone else having problems with nouveau ?

This is a test machine which runs LL5.8 and 6.6 ok, however LL7.0 RC1 consistently locks up when running Lite Updates from GUI (terminal works ok)
The system lock up seems to be related to nouveau.